"Developing Musicianship through Improvisation offers an approach to learning music that is similar to the process for learning a language. Just as it is possible for everyone to engage in meaningful conversation, it is also possible for everyone to engage in meaningful improvisation."

I think it might be a little weird to use these books without a music teacher, but they are absolutely sound in their approach.

I would be happy to help anyone interested.

Each book comes with a CD.

If you don't play an instrument, get the Vocal Book.

There's also an iPad app which I have never tried.

@kai that jazz piano book is good :ablobkeyboard:

@karolat doesn't look like something I would recommend for a beginner 😅

@kai it's still a great book! was assigned for a course i had on improv (for players of other instruments as well)--it really is pretty cool you can methodically mimic a sound/genre. taste, of course, is still necessary for the knowledge to be truly effective!
@kai This immediately makes me think of Paco de Lucia seeing Al Di Meola and John McLaughlin dueling improvisations together. Paco came from a place of regimented classical training, but really branched out when he started improvising.. I cannot stress enough the importance of improvisation to a musician. Not necessarily in performance, but in all aspects. The most unexpected and most creative things I've done have been improv'd.

@coy Yes, the way music is taught in common practice is completely stupid. It's going to take generations for research based insights to make their way through the music education community.

People tend to teach the way they were taught, and most were taught badly, and are successful in spite of poor teaching.

Some people say that you can't teach musicianship; you can only create an environment where music learning is possible…

@kai People also tend to learn best when they're comfortable.. In this case, comfortable means a lot of things, could mean confidence, it could mean aptitude, it could just mean at ease.. I find throwing concepts at someone like your average teacher would is highly detrimental to interest in music, it makes it look like "basic math" when really music is more like working with abstracts and infinites.. Also, teaching musicianship is like teaching someone how to think: very difficult, but not impossible, and needs a lot of cooperation, mostly coming from the one being taught.. although I'm self taught so what do I know ;p
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