@lnxw48a1 Walt, have you tried to use any of the #BSD distros? I'm curious about it, but I'm likely not technical enough to deal with it. 😅 ( #LinuxMint user, here. #Linux )

@bthall In the late #1990s and early #2000s, the #FreeBSD install process was only a little bit more difficult than the #Red_Hat / #Fedora process was.

Since then, nearly every #Linux distro has gotten way easier to install and I haven't kept track of #BSD installation processes (but for example, #ArchLinux and #NetBSD were both more difficult than average, while #Gentoo is easy, but very long).
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@lnxw48a1 @bthall I was going to ask what happened to PC-BSD. Rebranded, apparently.

I think even OpenBSD is easy to install, so long as you are going with the defaults.

ZFS root is cool though.

DragonflyBSD has HAMMER which is pretty cool.

@kai @bthall As far as I know, I've never installed #OpenBSD. Now that I have a few !rpi devices waiting for me at home, I should see whether any #BSD operating systems have ports to that platform.

@lnxw48a1 @bthall there's nothing hard about installing BSDs. Just answer the questions.

The only tricky part would be partitioning and dealing with pre-existing data; I highly suggest having an entire drive dedicated to whatever OS you are installing. If this isn't possible, you could always play in a virtual machine.

@bthall @lnxw48a1 my understanding of the BSDs:

FreeBSD = speed
OpenBSD = security
NetBSD = portability
DragonflyBSD = scalability

@kai If you're used to installing #Ubuntu or #LinuxMint, the #BSD installers are very likely to be harder for you relative to Ubu/Mint, even in a VM. Not impossible, by any means, but not as simple and easy as what you're used to.

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@lnxw48a1 @bthall just because it doesn't have pretty animations doesn't mean it's harder. The questions are the same.

@kai @lnxw48a1 Hm well after googling for "BSD+[my think pad]" it seems like support for mine isn't there, so I'll likely try it in a #VM for now.

I suspect that if I can't #aptGet and other stuff it won't be for me, for now anyway.

Do you use #BSD full-time, Jon?

@bthall @lnxw48a1 I have tried everything, though I'm on Linux for now since it seems to be the most well-supported by media creation tools, and I'm also a fan of the GPL, Bran.

@bthall @kai I doubt that #apt / #apt-get (or #yum / #urpmi / #dnf) is available for #BSD, but they have their own systems for installing & managing software.

@lnxw48a1 @bthall app cafe resolves dependencies and stuff.

pkgsrc is another popular one though I think dragonfly moved away from it a couple years ago

@lnxw48a1 @bthall @kai Funny fact: The only time I tried to install OpenBSD, it crashed. It was hardware-specific, and Theo told me later that a workaround existed: I only needed to have a floppy inserted while installing. By that time I already decided that BSD was too fickle and the rest is history.

@zaitcev @lnxw48a1 @bthall I think those days are passed 😂 they're fun to play with but I think the GPL is more compatible with my morality.

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